Here’s the transcript for episode 013 of the Trauma-Informed Everything podcast:
I’m Allison and I’m Andie, and welcome to trauma informed everything.
On this podcast we examine how trauma shapes our individual family and societal experiences. We demystify trauma and promote a world of trauma informed everything because like it or not trauma informed everything. As always remember our disclaimer, everything we say is for informational purposes only. And nothing on this show is meant to replace treatment from a licensed mental health professional. Thanks for listening and enjoy the show.
Okay, this is Episode 13. We’re done with one whole season end.
I have a lot of feels Me too. I can’t we did it. We did it.
Like fake crying and
I need a ceremony to congratulate us. No, I’m kidding. Well, for real, though, because my trauma brain. I’m a great starter. I can start a whole lot of things. But to like finished something is Yeah. I did it. Yeah. And we don’t want any with How are you all? We’re not completely done. But we did a whole season 12 full episodes. Yeah. So in this episode, we’re gonna talk about those episodes and just give a little mini recap, while also giving you a little peek at what’s to come. So don’t leave us don’t turn off the episode just because it’s the last episode.
We have. We have things to share.
So like we said, 12 episodes, lots of good stuff. Andie, I wonder if you would tell me what your favorite episode from this first season was? I think my favorite was I can’t decide between the CO regulation or the complex trauma, or, or the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. That was my favorite. I think we reference that one a lot more the most? Yeah. Yeah, I think we frequently will send people to the sympathetic and parasympathetic episode. In our gatherings with our book club and stuff. I’ll just say, listen, when we’re talking about the nervous system, the best primary can get is just go listen to this episode.
I’ll just say listen, yeah, you need to listen, Linda. Yeah. Listen, Linda. That was one of my favorites. And then all the regulation stuff, because we spent a lot of time talking to parents who really wanted to understand co regulation and the way that we are all co regulating each other all the time or not. And the way that we can kind of incorporate that more intentionally. So. Yeah, those were two good ones. Let’s do a little run through just as a reminder, in case someone listening to this wants to know what we have to offer. first episode was what we mean by trauma informed that is our most listened to episode at this point. And makes sense. It is the first one. Yeah, it’s the first one. Yeah, also, um, I think that because I think people are saying the words trauma informed so much, that there are a lot of people who are like, what the heck are we even talking about? And what are we doing here? So I went is that even? You know, a good offering for the, for the world, the field?
Yeah, and then we got into trauma 101 trauma 201 which was a beast to outline. Yes.
And that almost turned into like, a whole season on its own. Mm hmm. It was it was awful. We that was we continually. Okay, that can be its own episode, like next year or something like you know, quit quit elaborating on that. Allison quit elaborating on that, Andie, because it’s like, yeah, okay, let me just let me just give you a one on one about trauma. You know, like, no, it’s so hard to choose what is so complex. You, you would text me when you were trying when we were trying to write up that outline? So you’d be like, what about this? No one’s got it. We got to focus. Yeah, put that on a different it’s so hard to sum up. Yeah. Those are really highly listened to two. Interestingly enough people listen to trauma 201 more than they listen to trauma. 101 like we have more people who started I guess with 201 and we’re just like, Okay, I’m good.
I don’t know I just because are the overachievers? Oh, yeah. They’re like, I don’t need that early stuff. I don’t need one on one. It’s like when you start college and you’re like, I’m too good for you know, English. Oh, 95.
Um, yeah. And then we moved on. We did some light trauma talk, which we needed. Frankly, we get really tired at the end of these episodes, especially the ones that are the more heavy stuff. We need. We need a nap that day.
And so we episode six with some light trauma talk. We just like talked a little bit about our own processes and our own work. And
I don’t know if there ever is such thing as light trauma talk, but we tried.
We attempted. We tried. And we tried. We came in we try, we came over again. And we did one interview I loved talking with Colleen. I thought that Yeah, that was, I think, the most useful out of all, I mean, besides like explaining what trauma is, but out of our whole podcast, I found that more parents were like, that was actual information that I can apply today. Yeah, yeah. And teachers, we had a few teachers who reached out and they were like, oh, my goodness, I had no idea what I was going to do, you know, with COVID coming. And a lot of these teachers didn’t even have the idea of a trauma informed classroom on their radar. But then they listened and realized, this is the year to go there. You know, so this is the year to be trauma. And it really is.
Yeah, and then we got into complex trauma, we did two parts with that, because again, that is so difficult to unpack. But we kind of had a little more of a framework that was given to us by people who have done all kinds of important research. And so those episodes, yeah, I think those are some of my favorites, too, because it’s something that people are just now kind of becoming interested in clinically. So.
Yeah. Then we did a casual q&a, followed by collective pandemic trauma, we explain to everyone why they feel like a basket case right now. And why everybody in the grocery checkout line is so angry.
Why we’re just a real pissy society these days. Whenever I find anybody who cracks a smile, like please talk to you seem normal, insane. Yeah, but everybody is just like, yeah, that we’re all we’re all kind of grumpy right now. Mm hmm. In general, I’m not saying that there is enjoy. I’m not saying that we don’t have like,
We’re not happy. I’m just saying like, in general, our society has a damper on it. Mm hmm. Womp womp. Know, that Charlie Brown music.
And he’s like Trump chugging along, all bent over. That’s my second son. We call it like, whenever he’s upset, his shoulders go down, his head goes down. And then he like, walks away. And in my head, I hear Charlie Brown music.
Four thing? Yeah.
Poor guy. Um, okay. So Andie, what have you learned over the last few months of showing up? Talking about trauma, putting it out into the world? What What have you learned? Or what? Yeah, I mean, I’ll allow you to speak for me, what have we learned together? Um, I think for me, it’s how needed a trauma informed lens is because I have had so many DMS so many conversations
with people who have these aha moments, or it’s like taking blinders off, or
finding clarity to issues that they, they, you know, when you’re stuck in an issue, or a problem within your family, with your kid with yourself, and everything seems so foggy. And I have found so many people learn about trauma, and they come out of this fog, and they’re like, Whoa,
and how needed it is for all of us right now, in this year of 2020. The year of perpetual complex and collective trauma. Yeah, yeah, I would, how about you?
I would say there were times when, you know, I would be
editing the podcast or and just kind of thinking
definitely some of the imposter syndrome stuff would creep in. And then also like, like, Who am I to be doing this? You know, every day, I’m not a graduate, even even of social work yet. And even then I won’t be licensed yet it just like all of those thoughts. Were very, very prominent.
But what kept me going were those VMs that would come in that would be like I just listened to your episode about regulation or complex trauma. And it explained things that I have felt or that I have known are true, that we haven’t been able to get answers about, you know, and we’re not we’re not treating people. That’s what’s so remarkable about it is we are just talking
These are just words, you know? And yes, we put a lot of work into what we share, especially when there are the more researched episodes and topics, but I don’t know. It’s just, it’s really beautiful. So yeah, I’ve
I’ve learned that the power of community can come around something like this and really be what drives it forward. So I’m really, really grateful. Yeah, we’ve only been I don’t, I hate to say this, like this way, like, talk about imposter syndrome. I can’t even say the word successful.
But we’ve only been as successful because of the people who listened and who the people who’ve connected and pushed it and shared it. And it’s been amazing to watch a core community come around us and support this work.
Both in the DMS through words through action through shares through supporting our Patreon. I’m continuously blown away when I hear that support, and I read it. This is the stuff that you guys don’t see. But Alison and I like shoot each other these text messages. But did you see this to choose? See that or when we started our Patreon? Like, every time we’d get a new patron? We would, you know, send each other a gift for Jeff, however you want to pronounce it?
We didn’t. Yeah, I’m crying. I’m just yeah. Yeah. Oh, now we have to give them things. Now. I’m just kidding. But a little bit, it was a little bit like, I want to make them happy. It’s all for them to be happy.
Just a podcaster in front of by listeners, asking you to become a patron.
Oh, my gosh, help me help you. Oh,
yeah. If you don’t know what you’re referencing, you’re very young.
Boy, on that note,
Andie, what is to come of trauma informed everything because like we want his channel, we were not just a podcast. That’s where we show up every week. That’s what you’re listening to now. But
we are so much more justified so much. We have a very special season coming up at the October Yes, Yes, we do. If you are following us because of your involvement in the adoption community, which is where Alison and I met. You will know that November is adoption awareness, National Adoption Awareness Month. And we are going to dedicate our podcast during that month to touch on specific adoption related content that is and does involve trauma itself. But it’ll be a little bit more nuanced. It’ll be much more conversational. We’re going to have some amazing guests, and who have direct work or
voices in the adoption triad. Yeah, we’re gonna be talking about trauma from all sides of the triad.
We know that it’s important to
be pushing the policies forward and pushing the needed change in adoption forward. And so we’re going to be focusing on that too. And we just can’t wait to share with you what all these awesome people have to say. Frankly, frankly, we are lucky to have them in our presence. Yeah, I’m gonna fan girl.
Yeah, totally gonna fan girl. There. They are.
If you as our listener have any specific topics or questions that are specifically related to adoption, this is your time, send us a DM and we will try to address those. In one of those podcasts are one of our amazing speakers. Yeah. Yeah. And if this is the kind of thing where we’re, we’ve, we’ve got a group of people that if we can’t answer it, which honestly, we can’t answer most questions, but
they will be able to answer it and do so with authority
on these topics, so we’re really, really excited about it.
Super excited. Okay, so the next thing that’s actually going to happen in the month of November as well, is a fun little event we’re having isn’t it?
So much fun. We are going to have a webinar that anyone is invited to called holiday triggers and how to deal so
For various reasons, this might be an even more
trauma response, see, time to go home to see your family, we’ve got the pandemic will still be happening. Of course, the pandemic is the backdrop that also makes the election even more tense, which will have just happened. Whenever people go home to see their families in November, there’s going to be a lot of things making this holiday season, a more tense one than ever. And a lot of people report going to see their families and feeling incredibly activated, incredibly triggered. So in addition to having that webinar, we’re going to be giving a lot of resources on our Patreon, about specifically how to deal with being among your family, if you are not able to set a boundary of Hey, I’m not coming to Thanksgiving this year, for whatever reason, which is what we’re doing.
I’ve already announced that our family, we’re out peace. Yeah, we will not be attending any family gatherings. Yeah. And I will not be pressured, or gaslighted or passively aggressively guilted into cooking Thanksgiving dinner. No, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, take your ticket, get back in line, the very first slide is going to be about your first option is to set a boundary and not go.
But a lot of people will have, you know, various reasons why they’re not ready to completely do that. And so, the second option is okay, you’re going to show up, and how will you deal and so we’re going to be giving you resources to that and also explain to you why it’s so triggering to be home.
Because a lot of times we don’t have language for you know why we’re just exhausted after a weekend of literally all we did was be around our family.
And eat food. Yes, it should be relaxing, right? Well, for a lot of people, it’s not and we know that so we’re gonna get together and chat about it. And I’m actually now I’m just now having this idea. I can write a specific meditation for like, you’re literally hiding in your childhood bedroom. And you need a break. And it could be like a like an inner child. Maybe that’ll be too much. But something something to meet that moment. Whenever someone is like I cannot handle Uncle George. Right now. I’m gonna retreat Tosa culture retreat. Those moment. You can Yeah, you could write a retreat meditation that they can pull up on the Patreon at any point in time. Yeah. So when you when your mother has reminded you that you can’t cook correctly. You can go to the bathroom, or take your nursing baby and meditate with Allison soothing voice. I have a really good meditation voice when I turn it on. Sometimes you have an excellent radio voice, like here on the podcast we cackle B, we holler.
but the meditations. I bring it here. I welcome you. We we come down anyway, it’s I really enjoy it. It’s one of my favorite things we do on Patreon. We’re gonna get to that. But what is coming after the holidays, Andie? after the holidays, and we are talking after the new year when it will be 2021 it’s just it sounds so beautiful to say another number
2021 come please. Um, yeah, after after the new year, we don’t know exactly when but shortly after the new year, we will be bringing back the book club and doing a nother the body keeps the score book club round to new and improved better spacing in the lines, which is what I did last night. better graphics, all the bells and whistles. Yeah, we’re so so right now we’re running the book club. And we’re getting some incredible feedback from I mean, our beta testers, they’re they’re our beta testers for this for this workbook and for the whole group. And that feedback is helping us make it awesome for the next group. So if you’re in our current book club, you’re the MVP, first of all, but we want the rest of you to join us in 2021. Spring 2021 Yeah, yes, we’ve we’re already getting lots of questions about people are really over the last week because we’re in week two of the book club and people are like I’m late Can I join and it really is the kind of thing or you got to be there from the beginning because it’s such a thick book and we process it in time that it’s like, if you were to show up, like let’s just talk about there’s 20 chapters.
The first six chapters is what we just met about this week. And oh, my goodness, if we can you imagine skipping chapters one through six, Andie, you can’t you have to start. I mean, it’s just like any other. I mean, the whole book is based on his research and there is a he bases the book on his timeline, so you can’t skip because you have to follow his timeline. You have to read how he started researching trauma and where it went from there, and why the research has built up on his previous research and those who he researched with.
So it’s important. Yeah, it’s important that you’re with us from the beginning, we had a few people come like a day late, because we forgot to shut down registration on the web.
And it was fine. It was fine. They were able to me You can be a day late. Yeah, next time, we’ll let you be one day late.
And I just last night, got some incredible feedback, I had at least three people say that the workbook that we provide itself is worth the payment through Patreon, or whatever we’re gonna end up doing, we may end up doing that differently the next time around. But they said it’s worth the cost of the book club itself, just having the workbook So first of all, like, thanks, guys, that was so for me. All the hard work that I didn’t want. Yeah, because the workbooks hard work, it’s,
you know, it’s one thing to be reading this and it’d be so heavy, but to be trying to synthesize it in a way that will help others read it without being triggered. And everything yeah. So but we’re, it’s truly a joy to be able to provide this, but it’s hard work. Hard work? Yes. But it’s, it’s a joy in the sense that to see people who are able to take away this information, and apply it practically or apply it practically in their lives or in their parenting or in their clinical work or in their professional work.
Like your your job job. I don’t know if you know this, but you can take trauma informed lens into your job job
site. But it’s, it’s so it’s very fulfilling.
So we’ve mentioned the Patreon a few times, we want to hear on the pod tell you what happens in Patreon, because we’ve mentioned it in different
spaces throughout the season. But we just want to give you an overview so that you know what consistently goes to that space on a regular basis. And we’re going to just kind of talk about, you know, what we do in there. So I already mentioned meditations, there are currently two meditations and some meditation tips up on the Patreon and meditations is one of the elements that come up. And then additionally, at least every other week, we’ll share a piece of research or a blog post that we saw, or something that is like trauma in the real world, like, here’s what people are saying, and talking about and doing, and that kind of thing. And then also, I’ve written once about my own EMDR experience, because EMDR is kind of this nebulous practice that people are a little freaked out by and not really understanding very well. And so I wrote about my experience, and how it helped me actually through processing complex trauma. And so I share it there because there are fewer people, I don’t want to just blast that information out to literally everyone who could possibly listen to it. And so it’s just a good a good place to show up with the more personal stuff that we actually kind of only hint at here. Yeah, you get to pay to be our friend.
It is it is a way to have more direct access, we are able to
put more time in that and build deeper relationships.
And I enjoy I enjoy the conversations. That not don’t necessarily happen in Patreon, but happened because of Patreon where people will interact with me whether it’s through Instagram or Facebook, about the things that that we’ve posted on Patreon and it’s it’s it’s fun to have those conversations. Because I’m an extrovert and I like people. Or I learned that I just have disorganized attachment and I can have a lot of conversations with people that I don’t really know. And that’s my safe place. It’s convenient.
And if you’re wondering what disorganized attachment is join the book club and will teach you all about it.
Absolutely. Okay, what do you do every Friday and Patreon. I do journal prompts and
Sometimes these journal prompts are specifically related to the podcast. And sometimes they’re related to something we talked about our morning show, something we talked about in our morning show. Or sometimes they’re just a random thought I had on my brain. And I think a couple times I’ve thrown in some grounding or
miscellaneous journal prompts that you can do, like at any time that don’t have to do with the podcast.
Some good ones are coming up, especially for the holidays.
Yeah, yeah, journaling is an incredibly therapeutic tool. Whether you’re in therapy or not, it can be really, really helpful.
And I do.
Yeah, I do say, if you there is a journal, some of them have been more therapeutic. And I’ve encouraged our members to take those to their therapy.
and discuss them with their said, therapist.
Because Yeah, I thought there was one specifically I wrote, like, take this to your therapist. Don’t try this at home. Yeah. Don’t try this at home or don’t leave it at home. At least don’t leave it at all. Yeah.
We also do a weekly Morning Show, every Thursday morning, we release. It’s actually a video show called alley and Andie in the morning. And now it’s called alien, Andie and the more
it is my pride and joy.
so much fun, like we just kind of riff a little bit like, this morning, we recorded one, and it’s called coffee mugs and food justice. So we just kind of talked about
all these different topics related to justice, and the politics of food. I got on my soapbox literally stood up. It’s great, because you get to see our faces. Yeah. Yeah, it’s fun. I really enjoyed the morning show. And folks are actually watching it. And
there’s part of it’s like, Are we recording into the abyss right now. But we’re not there are real humans who are watching it. Because, again, we talked about the stuff that I think a lot of people wish we would address on the podcast, but we’re a little bit like, I don’t know, that’s better suited for the people who can actually respond and engage with us in real time about it. So we put a lot of that stuff there. It requires a little bit of relationship with us. And that’s why we put it on Patreon, because you have to know who we are to understand
our sarcasm and humor. And I think if you didn’t know us, you might be scared. Yeah, you might not want to, to listen to the podcast if you watch the morning show without really knowing us and already resonating a little bit. Yeah, but I have had several people who have said it’s their favorite thing we do. Really? I didn’t know that. Yeah, yeah, they I’ve had a couple people who are like, it’s I look forward to the morning show.
That makes me happy. And then we also do book club content. That’s where we hold a lot of our discussions about chapters and things like that. We also do a Facebook group for that. Again, since this is the beta group. We’re kind of just like testing book platforms and seeing how it works. But we put all the book club stuff there. Early podcast releases, so this drops in on Monday for everyone. But everyone in the Patreon community gets them on Sunday. So little well, Sunday afternoon. Listen in for ya is what? Sunday, Sunday Sunday. Yes, so everybody gets them. And then it’s actually really cool. The way Patreon works. Everything that is a recording that we put in Patreon goes on a Patreon only feed like an exclusive feed for our patrons. So whenever you open up your podcast app, if you are part of our Patreon, then all the meditations are loaded in there. All of the early release episodes are loaded in there and anything else that we record that is just like for listening is all in the same patron only feed which I think is cool. Like I mean, they have it all, like connected. So anyway, um, somebody was smart enough to figure that out. Because I would not have been It was my husband. I mean, oh, I’m embarrassed to say yeah, no, I was like, it’s fine. He’s like, No, you don’t understand bears to say you chose to marry him. You should be proud of your choice. You’re right. And he I am pretty prideful about figuring things out on my own. But, you know, probably once a week, I’m like,
can you help and he’s a tech guy. He edits a lot of podcasts and
builds websites for a living so
He’s a good person to have around. He’s a good person.
I would I want to these days, I want to have my husband and I sit down and write vows. Like, as we add, like today, today vows been married after 13 years, like, what would you say to me? Yours would be things like, thanks for editing my podcast. Yes, yes. And to be clear, I do the editing that takes longer. He does, like,
the bigger stuff like, like, I don’t know, there’s there are a few things that I’ve been saying, Oh, yeah, I’ll learn to do that. Literally. Since we started this podcast. I’m like, Oh, yeah, I’ll learn to do that part of the editing process. You know, but it’s usually like, I’ll learn that next week. This week. Will you do? Me? And then he does it for me. But now it’s next season?
They’re also maybe in the future podcasts that we do just for Patreon. Yes, no one else will have access to that. Yeah. I’ve been thinking about that for the Adoption Month. Like we’ll have it Yes, exclusive recordings, with our with our guests, or maybe even unedited episodes. So we also love engaging with our Patreon community, because they help us shape the future of trauma informed everything. So it’s not just, you know, we’re all having a good old time and reading research and talking about it. But whenever Andie and I are like, okay, what’s next? We we look to these folks, because they’re the people who are most invested in the future of our show, whenever we’re like, should we talk about this first, or should we talk about this first, they’re the ones we go to. And the way the time that we talk about that is at our monthly gatherings. So we get together once a month with everyone in the Patreon community. to address a topic, we just kind of chat about a topic. And
we also will talk about the future of the show and what we’re planning to do and get feedback from everyone. It’s another way you get to see us face to face, get to see our outside. Not I mean, we bring our whole selves to the podcast, but you get to see our more relaxed selves.
And here our dogs or see our dogs in my case.
That’s so cute.
So yeah, that’s it. As of now, that’s what we’re offering on Patreon. We show up every week, multiple times a week there to kind of build on what we talked about here. And a lot of people, like we said, are giving excellent feedback. And so if you’re considering joining, and you’re not sure if it’s for you, we’d love for you to dm us to email us all that information is at the end of the podcast. Yeah, definitely reach out. We want you we want to have you in the club.
That’s our show for today. If you enjoyed the show, please take a moment to rate and review it on your podcast platform. Yes, please do this helps others find the show and we would be really, really grateful. So if you have any questions for us, please send them to us at trauma informed firstname.lastname@example.org and we just might answer them in the future during our q&a segment. Thanks for joining us. And remember, trauma informs everything and we really do mean everything
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